Posted by: Chad K. on December 02, 2002 at 12:54:39

Well, we tried the same thing ages ago and found that it just doesn't work. You have to remember that CO2 is a self-refridgerating gas (not the technical term, but I'll explain). What that means is that as you shoot, the pressure in the tank drops, and so does the temperature (which is why the tank and your marker with get nice and frosty even in warm weather if you shoot quickly). Now, to survive in cold weather, some markers will work great on straight liquid. To use liquid, you need a siphon (or syphon) tank, which is a regular tank with a (usually) flexible tube that is weighted so that it sits at the bottom of the CO2 tank and draws pure liquid CO2 into the valve. All pumps, most Tippmans, most ICDs and even many Spyders (or clones thereof) can be run on a siphon tank. If the marker has a regulator of any kind (ie: Autocockers, Automags, 99% of electros), DO NOT try to run them on liquid. Liquid CO2 will destroy the innards of most regulators in little to no time. Personally, I almost always use liquid through my ProLite or one of my pumps during the winter and have for the past 7 years without problems. If you've got a Spyder or clone, liquid CO2 can be hard on the internal seals, so make sure you have several spares handy (which you hsould have anyway :). For even more inane information on this topic, check out www.docsmachine.com and find the FAT. I'd post the URL, but the site appears to be down right now. -Chad

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