Posted by: K Keaty on May 15, 2003 at 12:01:49

I actually think you're offering an impossible deal for a paintball team to use. Here's why. First, I assumed that a single day of refereeing is 8 hours. I also assumed that the field work was 15 players for an 8 hour day, once a month. I assumed that tournaments were 10 hour days, and you'd have 8 refs for 6 tourneys in 1 year. I also assumed that you were offering this sponsorship in return for a full year of the services you mentioned. That means that you're getting 2784 man hours per year for $8750 (I've added no value for the paint at cost because I think they could get such a deal for a little advertising on a banner). At this rate, you're paying $3.14 per hour for all this labor. I could work every weekend at minimum wage and clear more than $3.14 per hour after taxes. As it stands, I could actually do better because I could make more than minimum wage at the nearest Burger King. Additionally, if you're requring them to work every weekend, you've allotted no time for the team to practice or attend a tournament. In fact, I don't see how a team could even practice with the schedule of work you've given. There's certainly no opportunity for the team to do anything as a whole, because you're occupying part of the team every Saturday and Sunday. What I'm saying is that this is an offer that's hard to use. It would be more valuable to offer the team less sponsorship and require less of their time so that they can actually play the game. I understand that paintball is expensive, especially when you're travelling to high dollar events. In response to that, I say to players that this is an expensive hobby and you should get a better job. To you, I say that $8750 is a lot of money, and you should definitely get some return if you are paying that out. I'd simply be more inclined to pay a little less in return for a more bearable workload. Kevin : I'm a field owner who had presented a sponsorship offer to a fairly large paintball team (15-20 members) I just wanted to get some outside opinions if this team had a good deal. : I offered : Entry fee paid for next years X-Ball events $8750 : Free use of a 33 piece Custom Airball field : All paint at cost for practice and tourneys : Sponsorship deals with several major companies : I asked for : 4 refs every Saturday, 2 every Sunday at the field : 75% of the team to help every other month on field maintenance : 7-10 players to ref at home field-hosted tourneys : Just wanted to get some opinions here.

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