Posted by: dave "_dave__from_the_coalition" ciarcia on September 23, 2003 at 03:53:11

: I have noticed for quite a while now... a new : trend in some of the post on RecTalk, and I have : seen it many times. I bring it up because I am : curious to see if it irritates others as much : as it does me...? : Here's how it plays out: when someone post a : negative comment or has constructive criticism : about an Established Paintball Promotor's Game, : or an Estiblished Paintball Owner's Field, a : wanta-be promotor/field owner jumps-in to agree : with the poster, and then plugs his own games, : and/or fields...? Sometimes these comments : are made by the wanta-be promotor themselves, : other times by people close to the wanta-be : promotor. And in almost every case, the person : plugging the wanta-be promotor did not even : attend the game that is mentioned in the original : posters post...? : Now, I know how upset people get when they feel a promotor is changing his dates around. Is this : any different? or worse? Does this irriate you : like it does me...? I am curious...? Is this : type of shameless self promotion actually working? : Can you imagine if one team starting doing this : to other teams...? : Maybe, if these wanta-be promotors could make it : on their own merit...? but then again, maybe : that is why they would rather do it this way...? : I find it/them irritating, insulting, and vulger... And, I believe them to represent : everything that is bad in paintball today... : I don't see ANY of the Established Promotors doing this...??? Nor have I EVER seen one of them do this. In fact, amoung the Estiblished : Paintball Promotors and Established Field Owners, : I have witnessed the EXACT opposite of this. : Don't get me wrong, I am all for small businesses, : but you have to have some "class". : What happened to the days when players (who actually "played in the game") posted the bad : followed by some good ideas...? You know, to : make the game better... That's Respectable! : Feel free to agree, or dis-agree with me; just : don't take it personally, and "don't" plug a : wanta-be - please... : I feel that if you are going to comment on a game : you should have at least "played in the game", or : made it very clear to everyone that you were not : even there - before you post... : Prehaps even with the disclaimer: "THIS IS AN : ADVERTISMENT". : At least that would be somewhat honest... : Inspired by Hollywoods Whiners Post... : Hankey ;-) : This post is not intended to knock the original posters, new promotors, or new field owners. It : is intended only for those who participate in : these types of shameless self promotion : tactics... Which I have grown very weary of. : I'll feel better once I get some sleep... ;-)

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