Vector FAQ
Revision 2.0
November 4, 1994
Maintained by: Nathan Fisher (fisherN3485@uni.edu)
Html conversion by: Jim Burke (jburke@bates.edu)
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Index:
Quoting Air Power:
- It has to be Accurate. Consistently accurate. Firearms accurate.
- It has to mimic a Military MP5 style assault rifle.
- It has to be balanced.
- It has to break down without any tools for "normal" cleaning.
- It has to withstand 1800psi and a completely liquid system.
- 4 way valve
- 100 psi regulated action
- anti-pinch/chop bolt
- removable barrel
- velocity adjust
- ball detent
- raised sight rail
- back-mounted bottle
- accuracy -- best I've seen in any semi. with any barrel.
- stability -- the gun barely twitches when you pull the trigger
- eats liquid or gas
- trigger pull is 1/16", (really!) and SNAPS when you pull (no grind)
- rate of fire is right there with a *worked* cocker
- 4-way prevents "short stroking" (gun both fires AND recocks when
trigger is pulled; no waiting for trigger to be released)
- anti-pinch is about 95% effective in preventing ball-chops
- reliability -- it cocks itself, (no bolt pin to pull) and since it
uses 100psi regulated action, will recock even in the coldest weather
- precision construction -- it's hard to find the seams!
- the barrel releases at the press of a button, which completely
exposes the bolt for cleaning
- the bolt and valve can both be removed without tools for
easy cleaning
- stock barrel is very well polished, and quite accurate
- unique bolt construction forms a vacuum when fired, sucks the next
ball into the chamber
- very short -- most of the action and pneumatics are below the
barrel, rather than behind it, which makes for a fairly small gun, even
with its 13" barrel
- stock vel adj can get you good velocity even into cold weather --
normal temps require the adjustment to be almost fully closed.
- works with very low pressure. (you CAN play in cold weather! really!)
AP claims the gun will cycle (although not shoot very far...) at _80_ psi.
If you're running out of air, your opponants can't tell unless they
see the balls dropping. (no more "VM-68 crying for death" sounds)
- gas efficiency (with or without Thruster) is estimated at 65 shots/oz.
giving [455/7] [585/9] [785/12] [1300/20] nice.
- great stability does not agitate the hopper; needs a VL-2000 badly
- if the anti-pinch is tripped, you must reset it (takes only a quarter-
second, but some people want paint NOW regaurdless if it means chops)
- if you remove your barrel while your hopper is attached, and forget
to turn the gun upside-down, you'll be dropping balls all over the
ground. (feed port is part of the barrel)
- difficult to turn the gun down far without Thruster -- common range is
about 260-370 fps in 70 degree weather. (some indoor fields want 200-
250)
- very loud. silencer does not help too much. Air Power says the
main air charge nears Mach 1 going around the second corner when
the gun is fired. Since the gun itself is creating the sound,
silencers/barrels can't really fix this.
- tank must be removed to adjust velocity (Thruster overcomes this)
- the gun may fire once when you put on the tank, regaurdless of safety
(this is documented in the manual) Put your hopper on AFTER your CO2.
- spare parts are expensive, and 5 of them are "custom fit" (send gun in)
- all-aluminum body seems a target for stripped threads. (caution is given
several places in the manual against over-tightening, threatening
"irreperable damage")
- the Adapter Body has two very very thin o-rings that seal it in, which
are very easy to slice when removing to oil. Recommend ordering spares,
especially if you lube the gun often. $0.50 ea
- high pressure feed line to the regulator has been known to leak on the
valve side; this is a free repair.
- almost every pin and screw is untreated steel -- oil them often, or the
rust monster cometh!
- heavy - 3 1/3 lbs without tank or paint
- cannot remove barrel release button for cleaning
- bottom line (not yet avail) -- replaces grip assembly, includes a Thruster
- shorter barrel
- gravity power feed (not yet available) Supposed to even further increase
rate of fire for those who want it most (8-9/sec possible??!)
- "Thruster" inline regulator/velocity adjuster $149
NOTE: do not overtorque adjustment, damage can result to rings
- parts kit $35. Includes at least 1 of every seal, O-ring, and screw
(see below)
- "Power Stock" - waiting for more info on this...
- J&J: thread your stock barrel and include one of their hardchrome rifled
barrels, all for $95 (this is reportedly low quality work)
- Pro-Team is working on a new receiver portion that will take any
Illustrator-type threaded barrel; still on the "drawing board" though
- BoA reportedly has two custom barrels with power feeds. More info?
call (216) 878-6309 for details
If you see a used Vector, check the button that attaches the barrel.
If it's round, it's the old version and may need some upgrades. If
it's square, you've got all the latest updates. (the "94")
The upgrade is free of charge, but will take awhile. I was quoted at
eight weeks to perform the upgrade. For an additional $49, you can get
another year's worth of warranty on your rebuilt Vector.
- VERY low gas efficiency -- 29 rnds/oz (580 rnds/20 oz)
- unstable velocity
- high cycle pressure ( >600 psi)
- very long gas flow path (from valve to barrel)
- pressure rise during cycle was very inefficient
- velocity regulator set screw put stress on power tube, causes
power tube failure in < 10k rounds
- increased efficiency
- more stable velocity (Thruster makes it *rock solid*)
- low cycle pressure - 100 psi
- very short gas flow path
- pressure rise changed from triangular to near square - very efficient
and stable (this is where the gun got so loud)
- velocity adjustment re-designed, power tube strengthened
Many people want to know more about the anti-pinch feature, so here is
how it works: You're firing away and a deformed ball drops down your
elbown and halfway into the chamber and stops. When you pull the
trigger, the bolt moves forward, powered by a 100psi burst from the
4-way. About 95% of the time the bolt will stop before breaking/
slicing the ball. The gun will not fire, and will appear to be
not hooked up to any CO2.
With your index finger, just flip on the safety (a lever right above
and forward of the trigger, on the side of the gun) and you'll hear a
slight whoosh as the gun recocks and resets. Flip down the safety
(off) and fire again. When the gun recocked, the ball should have
fallen into the chamber. This resetting procedure takes about 1/2
second if you know what you are doing.
I have heard of balls so badly deformed that they will not drop when
reset -- to clear this jam, you have to either pop off the barrel,
(press a button and pull) or pull off your hopper. (note: some tourneys
are changing rules so that barrel removal is forbidden)
On an average day with average paint and high rate of fire, expect to
reset your Vector 4-5 times a day. Don't think of it as four resets;
think of it as zero ball chops/barrel bursts.
The Vector limits its velocity by varying the distance the cup seal can
move from the valve seat, which effects how long the valve stays open.
Adustment is done by removing the tank, (bummer) and turning a set screw
in the adapter body with an allen wrench. The manual states you have
6-8 turns to work with. Mine has four and a half.
To set the Vector at maximum velocity it is not necessary to back the screw all
the way out. Back the screw out until it is flush with the adapter body. Now
slowly twist it in until you feel a slight resistance. (it will be several
turns) When you feel this resistance, you have just hit the piston. Turning
firther will push the piston forward and compress the valve spring. When the
valve spring is fully compressed, the pin can barely move, and the cup
will not put hardly any air in your barrel. This adjustment in no way
effects the air going to the regulator and it's 100 psi for the action.
This in effect changes the spring size in your valve. Note when installing
a regulator, you need to fully open the valve system. Remove the set
screw and the piston. Put them in a bag with some oil in case you
need them later. Failure to remove these items will result in a
maximum velocity below 300 fps. This procedure is not covered in your
regulator booklet/manual unless you bought a Thruster.
The stock barrel for the Vector is believed to be the most accurate
produced so far. BoA makes a ported barrel that has about equal
accuracy, with a good silencing action. J&J makes a lower quality
barrel. Stock rate of fire is 7-8 shots per second. This barrel
has neither ports nor a brake. Just a wildly polished tube.
The NRG barrel has the port moved to the top for increased rate of
feed. This required the raised site rail to be removed and replaced
with a side-mount scope rail. Rate of fire is tested at 8-10 shots
per second, depending on whose finger is on the trigger.
AP also offers a shorter barrel, which lowers the effective length
from 13" to 8", and reduces the overhang of the barrel from 6" to 1".
Reduced accuracy is expected, but not confirmed. It is neither
ported nor braked.
Accuracy of the Vector with its stock 13" barrel is apparently unmatched,
as the Vector has never lost a 5-man or 10-man target shoot. (at the
American Opens)
This is the stated price for all parts shown in the breakdown in the manual.
Barrel $ 75
Site Base $ 20
HP Line $ 25
Barrel Mount $ 45
Adapter Pin $ 4
HP Line Cover $ 20
Drive Pin $ 4
Bolt Head Slider $ 20
Action Power Unit $200
Hammer $ 25
Receiver ** CALL
Valve Seat ** $ 30
Valve Shaft $ 20
Return Spring $ 2
Velocity Piston $ 5
Adapter Body ** $ 40
4-Way Valve $100
Valve Arm ** $ 20
Trigger Sear $ 20
Trigger Assembly $ 30
Side Cover ** $ 30
ForeGrip $ 27
Pistol Grip $ 25
Parts Kit $ 40
Notes:
- the "Return Spring" is the valve spring
- Valve Seat must be matched to Adapter Body
- Side Cover must be matched to Receiver
- Valve arm must be matched to rest of action
- prices rounded up to nearest dollar
- parts are typically cheaper when you actually order them
- Action Power Unit includes the regulator, ram, main spring, and hammer
- total cost (without receiver) is $827, spare parts are marked up about
50% from total cost of gun
These items are included in the parts kit, $35 + $10 ship from AP:
O-rings (black rubber)
-----------------------
1: 6.5 x 2 OD x width
2: 7.5 x 2 (in mm)
1: 8.0 x 2 (+/- .3mm)
2: 11.5 x 2
2: 18.0 x 2
1: 20.0 x 1 (adapter body)
1: 24.0 x 2
Screws
--------------------------------------------
1: 2.5 x 3.0 coarse thread length x width
4: 4.5 x 3.0 course (in mm)
2: 6.0 x 3.5 fine (+/- .5mm)
2: 9.0 x 3.5 fine
2: 15.5 x 3.5 fine
2: 19.0 x 3.0 coarse
Springs
-----------------------------
1: 15 x 5.5 x 0.8 (height x
1: 19 x 8.7 x 1.0 turns x
1: 45 x 11.0 x 1.4 wire OD
1: 52 x 10.7 x 1.2 in mm)
Wrenches
---------------------
1: 1.5 short (in mm)
1: 2.0 long
1: 2.5 long
1: 3.0 short
Washer (firing)
------------------
1: 13 x 8 x 1.25
(OD x ID x width)
(in mm)
(clear Teflon®?)
All this comes in a very nice yellow parts case, with pleanty of room for
any other tools or extras you might want to throw in.
IMHO, $35 is too much to pay for this stuff. Just order the list below and
get anything else you need at the hardware store:
- all springs
- four or more of [20.0 x 1] O-ring (for the adapter body, only $.50 ea)
- clear washer (seals valve port with power tube assy, hard to see if dropped)
Not Included:
- detent spring (although you have a detent screw...)
- 1st or 2nd trigger spring (watch the little one when assembling/
disassembling)
- barrel release spring
- - Gun fires but gas leaks down the barrel:
- a) Power tube seal is bad.
b) Power tube spring is weak
- - Gas excessively leaks down the barrel:
- a) broken or cracked power tube.
- - Difficult or impossible to adjust velocity (without Thruster):
- a) Power tube spring is weak
- b) Power tube needs to be lubed
- c) power tube is cracked
- - Trigger does not pull back
- a) broken trigger sear
- - Trigger pulls but gun doesn't fire:
- a) reset safety
- b) check sear spring
- c) check hopper for broken balls, dump and reload if necessary
- - Air leaks near where tank meets adapter body
- a) bad adapter body O-ring(s)
- - Air leaks from behind "Vector" nameplate
- a) high pressure line o-ring not seated properly
- b) high pressure line leaking, warranty repair
some Vector owners would like a modification that would...
- make the anti-chop feature able to be shut off if wanted
- AP, "this cannot be done"
- make the trigger flip the safety instead of firing if it's tripped
- AP, "this cannot be done"
- make an auto-response/double-trouble trigger
- AP has no plans to make one
- offer a lightened/milled out block (possibly top on the "wish list")
- AP claims most of the weight is in the action, and does not plan to
offer this
- make Teflon® o-rings for the valve body
- AP is the ONLY source of the regular rubber o-rings, but is considering
making a composition change. Until then, users are advised to remove
the adapter body only when necessary.
- include a minimal parts kit with the gun
Here are the things I do when returning from the field:
- remove and clean barrel, bolt, and bolt pin
- put it all back in
- wipe off any paint on the outside
- put a drop of oil on all exposed screws
- dab the bottom of the bolt slider with a little white lithium
grease (great stuff!)
(gee that was tough, eh?)
When things are really bad, (like the day I took five gun hits to the
elbow.....) I do the above, plus:
- remove front handgrip
- remove trigger plate
- remove pommel
- clean paint from grip, pommel, plate, and block
- put a drop of oil on each of the trigger parts
- reassemble
You'll only need to pull the action maybe once every other month to clean
and grease it up. Follow the instructions in the manual, they're pretty
good. I recommend not removing the 4-way though -- you can still
remove the AP unit without unplugging hoses or removing the 4-way.
Taking the action out is harder than putting it back in, and watch out
for that trigger spring!
Things start with the Vector cocked:
- hammer is locked onto ram by sear, power spring compressed
- hammer/ram are next to valve
- bolt is open (above ram)
- 4-way is closed
- valve arm is held by trigger lever
Here is what happens when you pull the trigger:
(forgive the lack of technical terms, my manual is at home)
- trigger is pulled
- trigger arm presses past trigger lever
- trigger lever pivots, releases valve arm (safety holds valve arm if on)
- valve arm pivots, 4-way opens
- 4-way sends air charge to action/power unit
- AP unit pulls ram/hammer/bolt back
- bolt pushes ball into barrel
- hammer reaches sear roller
- at the same time:
- - sear roller pivots sear
- - sear pivots valve arm
- - sear releases ram
- - 4-way closes
- hammer pushes away from ram powered by main spring, towards valve
- 4-way sends 2nd air charge to AP unit (different line and port)
- hammer hits valve
- AP unit begins to move ram/bolt forward (yes the ball has not fired yet)
- very short, high volume air charge released from valve, travels up
power tube and fires the ball
- AP unit continues to push ram/bolt and compress main spring
- main spring fully compressed, sear locks hammer and ram together
- user releases trigger
Vector is now recocked and ready to fire again
If a ball stops the bolt from moving forward, the action stops. The
4-way is still open, therefore the Action Power Unit is still pulling
the ram, bolt, and hammer forward. Leaving the Vector in this state
for long could eventually pinch the ball in half. (and fire the gun)
Flipping the safety on pivots the valve arm (normally done by the ram)
and causes the 4-way to close and the trigger sear to catch it.
When the 4-way closes, the ram just goes back to the valve along with
the hammer, and opens the bolt, and the ball should then drop into
the chamber. Don't forget to flip the safety off.
If the trigger is pulled with the safety on, the valve arm will not
pivot, and the gun will remain in its cocked state. There is very
little difference in the "feel" of the trigger pull of a Vector
on safety or not.
One of the reasons for the high rate of fire is that the gun does not
have to wait for the user to release the trigger to complete recocking.
The Vector relies on its own internal timing to complete the firing
cycle as fast as possible. No short stroking.
Another factor is that the gun CANNOT be fired faster than the mechanism
works. If you rig up a machine to pull the trigger faster than the
Vector can cycle, the vector will simply not cycle during those times the
trigger is pulled and it is not ready. No ball chops or jams.
If you are looking for a *reliable* gun, the Vector is for you. Besides
something outright breaking, the only thing that can break down on a
Vector is if the 4=way "moves". This means the 4-way's position
relative to the valve arm has changed. (it's adjustable for timing
reasons) To reset this, you must remove 6 screws and adjust two more,
all with the same allen wrench. To date, I have not heard of anyone
needing to make this adjustment.
(how many mags have you seen break down? how many cockers? Ever seen
a "bad cocker day" on your field? ;-) not a pretty sight!)
Weight: 3 1/3 lbs
Length: 18 1/4" (15" w/o barrel)
Height: 8"
Width: 2 1/2"
Color: jet black
Barrel length total: 15 1/2", effective: 13"
Construction:
- plastic:
- aluminum:
- barrel, body, sight rail, CA adapter, cover plates, trigger,
power tube, all black anodized, hammer, normal
(the body is one solid block of machined aluminum)
- steel:
- action, trigger mech, pins/screws, valve mech, hammer striker,
sear
An Automag over a Vector:
- quieter
- lighter
- more aftermarket barrels available
- balances better with a bottom line
- can turn off the ball feed
- costs $150-200 less (without mods and toys)
- has no need for a regulator
A Vector over an Automag:
- no short-stroking
- no freeze-ups
- stock barrel is already accurate
- no foamies!
- no need for power-feed
- easier cleaning
- balance is perfect with a '20 on the back
- no breakdowns
- no shoot-downs
- still works in November, December, and January
- no chops
- no HP seals (except the cup seal of course)
- shoots faster, even w/trigger job on the mag
- has no need for expansion chambers
Out of the box it's accurate, fast, and reliable, but...
treat it like a VM68 and you will be seeing some big repair bills.
For the best info, call Nick Lotuaco, president of Air Power. Ask for him
at Air Power @ (804) 486-8114.
Best price I've seen, as of Oct. 4, 1994 was from Central Ohio Paintball.
They offer the '94 Vector with VL-2000 and a 12oz tank for $499. Compare
at $549-599 elsewhere.
Update! Best price is at Draco - Vector with 12 oz tank for $490.
10/26/94
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