Posted by: Joe Gamb on July 20, 2004 at 23:14:02

: Ok! when the st. johns water managment backed : off from wanting to buy the lower part of the : field, we started to build some more, as you : saw we started with the old fort and I came up : with the FT. Apache game idea with the four : flags, we let our walk-ons do that same game : about 10 diff. time for about 20 mins each : game, and they always got one or more flags. : we never figured that the 3 teams that sign up : for the series would hold the flags and i would : need A play-off, but it happen with two team : so! I came up the play off idea of both team capt. : doing a best 2 out of 3 game in front of the neted : area so the other players and team menbers could : see just how well their capt!. could play, it was : tex of the doom trooper who said tO use rental : guns. as far as the troopers holding the fort for : a longer time, the first game the black berets : were the defenders, the troopers were the : attackers, after 3 1/2 hours of game play. I saw : only (FIVE) WALK-ON PLAYERS that were still trying : to attacker the fort, all the OTHER attackers had : run out of paint, got tired, or when to play air- : ball like tex and them did. so I made the call : to end the game early and give the berets the full : 4 hour game. the first game it was 25 defenders : to 150 attackers. the 2 nd game with the troopers : in the fort as defenders and the berets as : attackers saw a 25 defenders to 80 attackers and : that game lasted for the full 4 hours as the : berets were still trying to get a flag. : now the moster was born! two team tied???? now : the 3 rd team back out and did not show up the : day of the game, what to do now. I had 91 : attackers standing around ready to play and no one : wanted to be in the fort. so i got some of our : field ref. who had ref the first two game but : wanted to play in the 3 rd game, to go in the : fort that was 5 players in the fort so far, then : came the sweet talking from me, my wife, and : others trying to get 20 more players to help : be a defender we got up to 21 players in the : fort now, so game on. they got creamed in 17 : mins. so now some of the other teams that showed : up that day figure hey! it's maybe not that bad to : be in the fort, so here we go with a diff. team. : thay lasted about 38 mins. now time to do the : best of 2 out of 3 game with the capt. then some : walk-on games. as far as the bunker hill game : it was HOT! playing paintball that day, and : yes one team was going to have to walk a litte : more then the other team, being an OLD GUY : carrying an big old shocker with a 114 ci 4500 : psi tank, I always ask which team has the base : nearer so i don't have to walk so far. did your : ask, guess not! half way thru the game some : players and capts. ask if we could move the red : base under the tree by the pond to get out of : the sun. " I " also made the call to do that, : " I " will make any call that makes the game : better and more enjoyable for the players, as : long it is fair for both side. and during the : game i was asking players, ref's what can we do : next game to make it better, I came away with 8 : thing to change for the next game to make it : better, and may come away with 8 more things : next game to make it better, BUT! did YOU ever : come by and talk to me about any thing that : would help make the games better? guess not, : your must be to busy driving to ww with all your : ideas on how to make a game better huh! I can't : make a player happy if you don't tell me what : wrong, I have played the game of paintball for : 18 year now, some players you can't make happy : even if you give them free paint,free air, free : entrys, free food, free rides to the base, will : take the hits for them, wipe it off, free rides : off the fields, free etc........... sorry you : hated ALL FOUR FREE ENTRY GAMES. : LATER : FIELD MANAGER Hugh After reading the last few post I would like to say that I have not approached this issue in the best manner. I did speak with several refs but I never did speak with you regarding any of my concerns and this is not the venue to adress them. In the future I will direct my concerns to you. I have always found Old River Paint ball and its staff to be a great place to play and appreiciate the time and efforts the staff put into each event. As far as the Fort Apachie series goes I enjoyed it very much and hope to see it as an annual event. I felt that the tie breaker should have been between decided eithier on the air ball field or a head to head mission, but after reading your comments and others i can understand not allowing an airball game and keeping the shoot out in front for everyone to see. Bunker HIll was just too hot and if you will allow me, I would like to blame the swelling of my brain for my original post.

Follow Ups: Re: Bunker Hill 20:05:27 07/21/04 (0) Joe, we must have posted at the same time......n/a Old Timers 00:28:48 07/21/04 (0) Post a Followup Show your name as: DefaultRealnameBothNickname E-Mail address (eg: joeschmoe@aol.com): Show your e-mail address? DefaultYesNo Your Password: Don't have a password? CLICK HERE - Forgot your password? CLICK HERE Subject: Subject:Message: : : Ok! when the st. johns water managment backed : : off from wanting to buy the lower part of the : : field, we started to build some more, as you : : saw we started with the old fort and I came up : : with the FT. Apache game idea with the four : : flags, we let our walk-ons do that same game : : about 10 diff. time for about 20 mins each : : game, and they always got one or more flags. : : we never figured that the 3 teams that sign up : : for the series would hold the flags and i would : : need A play-off, but it happen with two team : : so! I came up the play off idea of both team capt. : : doing a best 2 out of 3 game in front of the neted : : area so the other players and team menbers could : : see just how well their capt!. could play, it was : : tex of the doom trooper who said tO use rental : : guns. as far as the troopers holding the fort for : : a longer time, the first game the black berets : : were the defenders, the troopers were the : : attackers, after 3 1/2 hours of game play. I saw : : only (FIVE) WALK-ON PLAYERS that were still trying : : to attacker the fort, all the OTHER attackers had : : run out of paint, got tired, or when to play air- : : ball like tex and them did. so I made the call : : to end the game early and give the berets the full : : 4 hour game. the first game it was 25 defenders : : to 150 attackers. the 2 nd game with the troopers : : in the fort as defenders and the berets as : : attackers saw a 25 defenders to 80 attackers and : : that game lasted for the full 4 hours as the : : berets were still trying to get a flag. : : now the moster was born! two team tied???? now : : the 3 rd team back out and did not show up the : : day of the game, what to do now. I had 91 : : attackers standing around ready to play and no one : : wanted to be in the fort. so i got some of our : : field ref. who had ref the first two game but : : wanted to play in the 3 rd game, to go in the : : fort that was 5 players in the fort so far, then : : came the sweet talking from me, my wife, and : : others trying to get 20 more players to help : : be a defender we got up to 21 players in the : : fort now, so game on. they got creamed in 17 : : mins. so now some of the other teams that showed : : up that day figure hey! it's maybe not that bad to : : be in the fort, so here we go with a diff. team. : : thay lasted about 38 mins. now time to do the : : best of 2 out of 3 game with the capt. then some : : walk-on games. as far as the bunker hill game : : it was HOT! playing paintball that day, and : : yes one team was going to have to walk a litte : : more then the other team, being an OLD GUY : : carrying an big old shocker with a 114 ci 4500 : : psi tank, I always ask which team has the base : : nearer so i don't have to walk so far. did your : : ask, guess not! half way thru the game some : : players and capts. ask if we could move the red : : base under the tree by the pond to get out of : : the sun. " I " also made the call to do that, : : " I " will make any call that makes the game : : better and more enjoyable for the players, as : : long it is fair for both side. and during the : : game i was asking players, ref's what can we do : : next game to make it better, I came away with 8 : : thing to change for the next game to make it : : better, and may come away with 8 more things : : next game to make it better, BUT! did YOU ever : : come by and talk to me about any thing that : : would help make the games better? guess not, : : your must be to busy driving to ww with all your : : ideas on how to make a game better huh! I can't : : make a player happy if you don't tell me what : : wrong, I have played the game of paintball for : : 18 year now, some players you can't make happy : : even if you give them free paint,free air, free : : entrys, free food, free rides to the base, will : : take the hits for them, wipe it off, free rides : : off the fields, free etc........... sorry you : : hated ALL FOUR FREE ENTRY GAMES. : : LATER : : FIELD MANAGER : Hugh : After reading the last few post I would like to say that I have not approached this issue in the best manner. I did speak with several refs but I never did speak with you regarding any of my concerns and this is not the venue to adress them. In the future I will direct my concerns to you. I have always found Old River Paint ball and its staff to be a great place to play and appreiciate the time and efforts the staff put into each event. : As far as the Fort Apachie series goes I enjoyed it very much and hope to see it as an annual event. I felt that the tie breaker should have been between decided eithier on the air ball field or a head to head mission, but after reading your comments and others i can understand not allowing an airball game and keeping the shoot out in front for everyone to see. Bunker HIll was just too hot and if you will allow me, I would like to blame the swelling of my brain for my original post. [ Follow Ups ] [ Post Followup ] [ WARPIG Rec Talk ]