Posted by: "Head Hunter" St. Charles, Mo. suburb of St. Louis on January 14, 2004 at 18:11:28

"I did see you try to reprimand him for an incident at Holden but that was with a German who was excessively aggressive against him. He ran over and kicked the bunker we were huddled behind because he was shot while crossing in front of a firefight with a barrel plug in his marker. The insertion had already passed and he was a straggler. Yet, you wanted to reprimand him even after a friend of yours said that Dale was not at fault." Walked into a firefight between us. We were yelling for them to get out of the line of fire. All the group but two hurried up and trotted off. Seems like they were going TO the reinsertion point. They weren't active playrs. Oh well. Just stopped there blocking my line of fire AT a totally exposed player I had pinned down. I assumed he was helping his teamate make a break for cover. Tried to lob a few right past his head. A couple didn't make it past. He took offense. Understandable until he and his buddy(that removed his barrel plug on the way) came 20 yards to our position and tried to kick over the plywood bunker. His buddy came over on my side and tried to stick his freshly unplugged barrel in my ear. It seemed prudent to violate the 'no contact between players rule' by holding onto his barrel and pointing it away from my head. The ref had been on the way at full speed and just about did a full body tackle on that player trying to get him off me. Well, I was NOT a happy camper at that point. I was screaming at the ref to EJECT both of those players and not to tolerate that kind of aggression. It has NO PLACE in that sport. I still feel that way. Always will. The ref escorted the three of us up to the staging area. Maybe that is where you got the impression I was being given field discipline. That was my assumption too. On the way up the ref said it was standard operating procedure to remove all the involved parties off the field of play, then to sort things out and to cool off the hot heads from doing something else stupid. That did not include you. You were in the same bunker with me. You weren't screaming at anyone. You also stopped firing while they were blocking our line of fire. I didn't. That made sense to me. Still does. Angry players should get a "Time Out". The ref talked to someone. Bill or maybe the field owner. The ref came back to me and told me I could return to play with the next reinsertion and warned me not to DO anything stupid on the field. Specifically, No payback against those players. When I reinserted, he was still talking to the other players. I was back in the game probably before you had a chance to speak to anyone. Didn't see you come up to the staging area. Bill never said a word to me... I was allowed to return to the game with no problems. I appreciate you sticking up for me. Especially after ticking you off the same day. You are a stand up player. A model I should aspire to copy. I DO get myself into these situations... All by myself. I probably deserve at least SOME of my 'reputation'. Whatever it is. I've been cautioned at several fields, had players take offense to my play. Once I back shot 3 players from 20 yards out. I heard a half dozen 'OUTS' but only two put up hands and started off. The third dove behind a fallen log for cover and was reloading his hopper. I charged and unloaded on him cause I had NO cover and HE did. I got a break on him and stopped. Well, he SAID he had called himself out and was just reloading. Got real ticked off. He was ticked off enough for me to believe him too. He was making remarks about 'rolling that my 'rear end' down the hill' when the ref called him off. Everyone that saw that, including a ref, said that was legitimate play on my part, an honest mistake at worse. Still, I had to talk to the field owner in response to this players complaint brought to him. The ref being there and standing up for me was the only thing that kept me in the game that day. He didn't have to do that. Well, I just didn't have to keep shooting at the guy I had pinned down. I could have just run for cover and could have made it if I rolled my own rear end down the hill while the guy was reloading. But I didn't. I just HAD to get those guys for some reason. I just couldn't let it pass in that particular moment. Didn't even occur to me that I maybe SHOULD. Competitive? Too Competitive? Just an adrenlin rush? I just don't know. I sure wasn't THAT important considering all the grief it caused for everyone. Something I have to think about...

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